<table><tr><th>From:</th><th>jeffrey E. &lt;jeevacation@gmail.com&gt;</th></tr><tr><td>Sent:</td><td>Saturday, September 5, 2015 4:49 PM</td></tr><tr><td>To:</td><td>Bob Berwick</td></tr><tr><td>Subject:</td><td>Re:</td></tr></table>

worse, danny kahnemans work woudl suggest=that positive sentiment is expressed once you are already the owner.=C240 not predictive of future, so that if you own china , you=speak highly of it. and then when they devalue everyone is cau=ht with their pants down.

re the chomsky=challenge I will fund. and my only role is to stim=late conversation amongst you and your colleagues how best to stimul=te the science.

On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Bob Berw=ck > wrote:

Hah. All lineages go extin=t. One interesting thing that Steve Gould noted was that this takes about =he same time for all vertebrates....

For fads too.

On Sep 5, 2015, at 12:16 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevac=tion@gmail.com> > wrote: =br>

it will " ev=lve" ::))

<berwick@cs=il.mit.edu wrote:

Jeffrey

So your view is that the socia= media jazz is a fad that will fizzle and fade fairly soon, no? =ob

On Sep 5, 2015, at 11:00 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com>=wrote:

i will=spend all the time you like teaching you about investing and the markets.=C2* simpler than it appears.. = would like chomsky to follow in the footsteps of hibert, turi=g , and encourage work in their fiels by presenting goals to the dis=iples.

=n Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Bob Berwick wrote:

Hi Jeffrey,

Ah very cool.

<table><tr><th></th><th>=/div&gt; 
So let me try a few out.</th></tr><tr><td></td><td>I guess it par=ly (! of course!) depends on how much we get to stick into the</td></tr><tr><td>box. </td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td>&lt;=iv&gt;I'm fine with prize money, mostly because as you know from Marv=n,</td></tr><tr><td>there's no</td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td>way to get funding for "real•=9D problems like these or those that Marvin</td></tr><tr><td>studies, </td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td>nsf &amp; d=rpa and toyota (as you just saw) only care about self-driving cars.
&lt;=iv&gt;So I'd be overjoyed to get some way to fund new students.=A6.</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>Challenge 1. Discriminating lang=age from noise.
This is doable. Partha Niyogi nearly did i=. A six-month effort.</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>Challenge 2.4&gt;=A0 Ah, depends on the sentences and what 'coherent'</td></tr><tr><td>means.=/div&gt; </td><td>Does Noam mean 'screwed up in some way'? W='re not so far from that.
Further than 1. That sys=em I showed you that can isolate difft factors in</td></tr><tr><td>*syntax* </td><td>as a =mall set of constraints can do some of that.
Recall Shimon Ullma='s 'rigidity principle' about the interpretation o= points</td></tr><tr><td>moving </td><td>in the visual field - same coherence idea.
&lt;=iv&gt; </td></tr><tr><td></td><td>Challenges 3 and 4 are much harder, we'd have to=know more about 'meaning'</td></tr><tr><td>and 'inference'.=/div&gt;</td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td>I wouldn't be happy with statistical curve fitting here.=/div&gt;</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>Finally - though I will drop this, because your t=me is too valuable and the</td></tr><tr><td>problems you and</td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td>Noam pose are the im=ortant ones, to me — what was your estimate of how</td></tr><tr><td>much that</td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td>=div&gt;twitter-in-love entrepeneur would have lost if he did honestly follow =is</td></tr><tr><td>twitter-predictor during</td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td>the first week of this month? = guess I am still baffled about the "market" for</td></tr><tr><td>their pro=uct unless</td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td>it's as you say, the market for the new, shin= toys - which is just about</td></tr><tr><td>salesmanship, not</td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td>science. Any=ay, I'll drop it - I was just curious as why/how 'any' of that soc=al</td></tr><tr><td>media stuff</td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td>would work. I suppose they will say that th=y have 300 M users, not 'all' of</td></tr><tr><td>them will be lying...</td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td>and=one can sort the liars from the non-liars....but so what?
=br&gt; </td></tr><tr><td></td><td>best wishes bob</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>On Sep 5, 2015, at 8=20 AM, jeffrey E. &lt;jeevacation@gmail.com</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2">&lt;mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com» wrote:</td></tr></table>

noam, as always, spending time . was great/ =A0 first draft. of the Chomsky Challenge. .=C2  Produce a non- living system that can be put into an environme=t for a while and --- 1. be able to d=scrminate language from noise. . priz= . a 1 dollar bill signed by Noam and 100k. .=A0 2. be able to discriminate coherent sentences f=om non ( we provide 10 test sentences ). prize a =0 dollar signed Chomsky bill , and 500k. 3. a lang=age learning module. 20 dollar bill signed and 1 million, 4. a=sense making module that can understand meaning inference. . etc. =A0 the non recommendation recommendation. .=C2  ie the student has a nice family= etc. a 100 dollar signed bill and 10 million dollars. ?=--- If your left leaning , is in conflict with a money prize , we co=ld substitute </=pan>---your prize =money goes to charity,- airline tickets to the Gaz= strip. - Nicaragua, North Korea, . and 1000 blank ,protest placards ? =A0 or top prize includes 1000 protesters of your choice =or three demonstrations :)

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