<table><tr><th>From:</th><th>jeffrey E. &lt;jeevacation@gmail.com&gt;</th></tr><tr><td>Sent:</td><td>Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:48 PM</td></tr><tr><td>To:</td><td>Misha Gromov</td></tr><tr><td>Subject:</td><td>Re:</td></tr></table>

:)

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 11:41AM, Misha Gromov C wrote:

Easy: i go out for diner at 600 feet with somebody else.

On Sun, 31Jul 2016 11:36:02 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote:

my favorite woody alien line is, =span>im totally confused about space -time. continuum =C2 how do i respoind if my wife says - dinner will be=ready at 6 feet.

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Misha Gromov wrote:

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plagiarizing Einstein who called time and space "persistent i=lusions" and regarding his theory of relativity as an att=mpt of making them mathematically real.

On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 11:19:35 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote:

you are begining to sound like an indian guru =nstead of a russian jew

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Misha Gromov <████████████████████████
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The latter, by definition, equals the former

On Sun, 31Jul 2016 11:11:46 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote:

does ok mean purport with the illusions of others =AO or some type of deep

reflection of an underlying real=ty

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Misha Gromov

wrote:

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Ergobrain generates ideas/illusions of the "world" some =re OK and some are

not

On Sun, 31Jul 2016 11:04:46 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote:

persistant illusion? consiousness required. =AO not sure what you mean by

illusion

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Misha Gromov

wrote:

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Math in biology may be a persistent illusion. Such an illusion may gener=te something dynamically non-trivial,e.g. physical science or someth=ng essentially static such as philosophy or religion.

On Sun, 31Jul 2016 10:38:19 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote:

understood. . however=C2 what i like is the concept of pressure . says nothing at=all about any one molecule, but gives useful information re the statisticrl. I wonder if people are more like the ind=vidual molecule and only looking at the statistical overview may giv= some info. the term social being, means par= of a group. . left isolated the indiv cannot thrive. =AO the study of groups of individuals , actuarial tables etc.=C2 seems useful. but only at the boundary s of certainty or=zero. does it say anything meaningful about any single person.

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wrote:

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mechanism -- something as sophisticated as Watt's pressure reg=lator

On Sun, 31Jul 2016 10:21:09 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote:

the word mechanism gives me pause, - =AO it relates so much to the industrial revolution where evrything a=d everyone can be thought of as a machine. =C2 the concept of hope. for example . or even the idea of " =oncepts". in general do not appear to me to lend th=mselves to mechanics. . is probability a " me=hanism " . ?

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Misha Gromov ██████████████████████████████████████

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On Sun, 31Jul 2016 09:19:31 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote:

think there is any fundamental reason

yes , or in paris if i come earlier. =AO what are you working on? =AO do you why biology ha= not opened its mysteries to mathematics? Possibly, he consistency of the failures =AO of the attempts of making

conceptual math-biology points to=ard an interesting psycological mechanism g=nerating the strive to achieve it.

wrote:

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Misha Gromov <███████████████████████████████████████████████

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in NY?

On Sun, 31Jul 2016 08:57:03 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote:

## </=pan> (cont.)

if one looks at probabilty distributions. it could appear =hat the curve is a result of being acted on by a pseudo force. =C2 pushing agents towards the center. the activity of=change more along the curve ( membrane ) one agent moves=up the other down so the distribution remains the same?

At harvard last week i hosted a group discussing deception. .=C2 the cost benefit. . camaflouge. misinforation, disimformation. =C2 etc , the feelign was that the role of your ergo c=uld be the system designed to read the inner workings of your predat=r or your prey. . instilling false signals, is a cheap =rotection.

anyway hope to see you soon

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On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Misha Gromov

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nice about himself in the press

Remind me of a scientist who staged up his death in order to find someth=ng

On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 11:42:37 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote:

do i have to look in the obituaries to make sure you=are not there? :)

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