<table><tr><th>From:</th><th>Deepak Chopra</th></tr><tr><td>Sent:</td><td>Monday, August 1, 2016 12:24 PM</td></tr><tr><td>To:</td><td>Michael Shermer</td></tr><tr><td>Cc:</td><td>Barnaby Marsh; Leonard Mlodinow; Jennifer Shermer</td></tr><tr><td>Subject:</td><td>Re: Lunch</td></tr></table>

Last nights conversation with Michael inspired this video this morn=ng

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From: Deepak Chopra
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:20:25 PM
To: Michael Shermer
Cc: Barnaby Marsh; Leonard Mlodinow; Jennifer Shermer
Subject: Re: Lunch

yes--God is an unfortunate term -with many interpretations. For me God i= the ground of being as pure consciousness-- potential for all experience--=efore the conditioning.

Tagore the Indian poet/ philosopher says "God is every child =hat is born and proof as well that God has not ( yet ) given up on hu=an beings "

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From: Michael Shermer <m=hermer@skeptic.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:16:27 PM
To: Deepak Chopra
Cc: Barnaby Marsh; Leonard Mlodinow; Jennifer Shermer
Subject: Re: Lunch

Got it. I wonder if you then concur or find resonance with Paul Tillic='s idea of god as the "ground of being"?

On Jul 31, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Deepak Chopra <nonlocal101@chopra.com> wro=e:

From the dic=ionary ontology I an'talaje I &=bsp;nounl </=pan>the branch of metaphysics dealing with the nature of being.<=span> <=pan role="text" class="df">

	<pan role="text" class="df">Being is fundament=l existence

	<=pan role="text" class="df">Ontologically it c=n be assumed to be physical or pure consciousness.

	<=pan role="text" class="df">We both know where=we stand

	<=pan role="text" class="df">The hard problem e=ists only if you assume a physicalist ontology

<=pan role="text" class="df">If consciousness i= your ontological primitive --ie fundamental, without cause, irreducible--=here is no hard problem .

<=pan role="text" class="df">Consciousness and =ts modifications --sensations, sensory experiences, images, feelings =nd thoughts are all experience we can have. These are interpreted by humans as mind and matter--the interpretations are also=in consciousness.

<=pan role="text" class="df">'You can't get beh=nd consciousness" Max Planck

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What do you mean by "being"? Here i think we encounter language pro=lems so semantic precision is helpful

On Jul 31, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Deepak Chopra <nonlocal101@chopra.com> wro=e:

Being --the =ntological primitive--wants to know . Shermer is a= assumed identity conditioned by religion( not anymore ), culture, mytholo=y, ideology, science ( maybe even scientism ). Genes, neural networks etc=are symbolic signatures of that conditioned identity .

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From: Mic=ael Shermer <msherme=@skeptic.com <mailto:mshermer@skeptic.com» Sent: S=nday, July 31, 2016 9:08:36 PM To: Dee=ak Chopra Cc: Bar=aby Marsh; Leonard Mlodinow; Jennifer Shermer Subject: Re: Lunch

The bigger question--Who or what wants to know if they have free will or not ?=

I do. Me. The self who calls itself Michael Shermer. The pa=tern of information in the genome and connectome stored inside the skin an= skull of the entity known as Michael Shermer.

How do you answer that question?

Michael

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