<table><tr><th>From:</th><th>Deepak Chopra l </th></tr><tr><td>Sent:</td><td>Wednesday, March 8, 2017 6:58 PM</td></tr><tr><td>To:</td><td>Glen Rein; Menas Kafatos</td></tr><tr><td>Cc:</td><td>JACK SARFATTI; foundationsofmind@googlegroups.com; rudytanzi@gmail.com;
David Kaiser; Sharon Weinberger; startigerjln@yahoo.com; Henry P. Stapp</td></tr><tr><td>Subject:</td><td>Re: Deepak Chopra falls off The Edge ;-)</td></tr></table>

Thanks Glen!

Spin charge electrons particles are human constructs for modes of knowin= and experience in awareness--in this case mathematical abstractions in hu=an consciousness. Macro objects are also human construct= for modes of perceptual experiences.This includes the macro object called brain . An object ( brain ) experienced in awarene=s cannot be the source of awareness. If there is a reality outside of=human knowing or experience it is by definition unknowable

Consciousness is non local and formless. Its excitations as qualia--sens=tions , images, feelings & thoughts create the illusion of space time =ausality and observer independent reality .

Menas and I elaborate this in our book particularly in the section on qu=lia mechanics

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From: Glen Rein <glen@eghman.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 1:30:07 PM
To: Menas Kafatos

Cc: JACK SARFATTI; <u>Deepak Chopra; 1</u>

David Kaiser;

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Henry P. Stapp

Subject: Re: Deepak Chopra falls off The Edge ;-)

On a more serious note, here's my interpretation of Deepak=s statement "4D reality (small r) is virtual" Thus it is not physical. Some Eastern traditions believe=reality is an illusion. Thus, what we see is not what is out there. What we see is our brai='s interpretation.

"Space/time is not fundamental" Most eastern traditions say consciousness is fund=mental. Reality manifests from consciousness and consciousness is in everything (living and no=living) "Funandemtal reality is formless" Fundamental Reality (capital R) or consciou=ness is not physical, has no mass, charge, spin or form.

This clearly contradicts what most neuroscientists believe, that the m=nd is a manifestation of the brain. This philosophy states the mind (individual consciousness) like everyt=ing else is derived from Universal consciousness. My last two presentation= at FOM proposed a phase conjugation-based mechanism for converting univer=al consciousness into virtual energy which I believe is the fundamental nature of the mind. -Glen

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 9:31AM, Menas Kafatos wrote:

Not you for sure.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 8, 2017, at 7:02 PM, JACK SARFATTI wrote:

Does anyone find any meaning in Deepak's statement below? Just curious.

## On Mar 7, 2017, at 11:21PM, Deepak Chopra

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Everyday reality is virtual
Spacetime are not fundamental
Fundamental reality is formless

Deepak Chopra MD

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On Mar 8, 2017, at 7:28 AM, JACK SARFATTI

wrote:

https://www.edge.org/conversation/david_chalmers-the-mind-bleeds-into-the-world
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