To: Jeffrey Epsteinheevacation©gmaiLcomj
Cc: Lawrence Krauss
From: Lawrence Krauss
Sent Tue 10/5/2010 3:53:33 AM
Subject Re: call

it is true that I am only interested in being right... I just finished going over the Feynman book Galleys, and it is a damn good book.. I felt so good to be able to send you the early version, but the final version reads really well and is full of insights that I frankly don't think many physicists are knowledgeable enough to have, if I do say so myself. but this is one of my favorite quotes: "I'm just looking to find out more about the world. If it turns out there is a simple, ultimate law which explains everything, so be it; that would be very nice to discover. If it turns out it is like a onion, with millions of layers, and we're sick and tired of looking at the layers, then that's the way it is. "

and as stephen wolfram said about him" It didnt seem to matter to him so much if what came out was big and important. Or esoteric and weird. What mattered to him was the process of finding it"

if those could be my mottos they would be...

I am not worried about being used btw, I can use as well as being used I frankly think that the constraints on how they fund things could very well preclude their ever funding great work... The closest they have come may be in evolutionary dynamics and cognition, but it could be that that work is wrong.. I am worried that they are so concerned about being out of the mainstream while at the same time being open minded that they simply might care too much about both in order to push things forward.. but we will see... contrariness is not as important as brilliance.

p.s. Lisa Randall must have heard about the shindig in Nov and is complaining that she is not invited.. should I invite her?

On Oct 4, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Jeffrey Epstein wrote:

The you are not really interested in mankind. you are only interested in being right.. its silly, very silly, If Templeton would fund great work, no matter what their true motivation , the results far outway , if successful, the dirty money problem . Einstein flicked his cousin, many considered his ideas threfore immoral. you are throwing away opportunites for both you and others. due to your personal belief of being exploited. its not well thought through. History has rarely , dealt with , the niceities of where the money came from . Galileo s work survived, he didn't

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Lawrence Krauss <██████████████████████████ wrote:

:)

but I am not sure I want to procreate with women who lie to me when I know they are lying... it is one of my weaknesses..

On Oct 4, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Jeffrey Epstein wrote:

Lawrence, you are too smart to believe that science is their focus. think of it like a woman, you keep demanding you want to procreate and having sex with her is good for mankind. that s the strength of your argument.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Lawrence Krauss
wrote:

we plan to talk again.. he wants me to outline some proposals and send them to him.. There arc still some weird things about Templeton though that Bamaby hedged on.... The one thing we agreed upon is that it is good for science if Templeton funds science... I will say this, it was the first time I felt Bamaby was internally constraining himself to give me a line, and not say what he thought..

We also agreed however that one should not take what other people think as grounds for whether or not, or how, one should accept support.

On Oct 4, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Jeffrey Epstein wrote:

and?

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 <u>at 2:50 AM, Lawrence Krauss</u> rote:

I was about to call you when I remembered I had a call due with Bamaby Marsh.. we talked for 2 hours..

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College of Liberal Arts and Sciences
School of Earth and Space Exploration
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