<table><tr><th>From:</th><th>Lawrence Krauss &lt;</th></tr><tr><td>Sent:</td><td>Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:09 PM</td></tr><tr><td>To:</td><td>Noam Chomsky</td></tr><tr><td>Cc:</td><td>jeffrey E.;</td></tr><tr><td>Subject:</td><td>Re: an article you may both hate. or like.</td></tr></table>

Yup.

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On Sep 10, 2015, at 12:09 PM, Noam Chomsky <<= href="mailto:████████████████████████████████████████> wrote:

I quite agree. And I'm pr=tty sure Lawrence does too.

From: Jeffrey E. [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jee=acation@gmail.com> )
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:02 PM
To: Noam Chomsky
Cc: Lawrence Krauss
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I think religion plays a major positive role in many I=ves. . i dont like fanaticism on either side. . sorry

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Noam Chomsky <chomsky@mit.edu> wro=e:

Thanks for sending. A wide area of agreement, bu= not total.

On confronting dogma, I of course agree — thou=h in my opinion the secular religions — nationalist fanaticism, etc. — are much more dangerous. And if some find r=tional discussion offensive — as, for example, mainstream academics=find dismantling myths of "American exceptionalism" or =9Clsraeli self-defense" or Obama's mass murder campaign, et=., offensive — so be it.

But I don't see why that should extend to ridi=ule. That includes astrologists. Astronomers can refute astrology, while recognizing that perfectly honest and deluded people may b=lieve it and should be treated with respect, while their beliefs are confro=ted with evidence. I also don't see why we should ridicule re=igious dogma, just as I don't think we should ridicule the much more pernicious secular dogmas. Rather, we should r=spond to irrational belief with argument and evidence, while recognizing th=t their advocates (like most of the intellectual world in the case of secul=r dogma) are people who we should be responding to but without ridiculing them. It may be hard sometime=. For example, when the icon and founding father of sober non-sentime=tal Realism in International Affairs informs us that the US, unlike other c=untries, has a "transcendental purpose," and the fact that it constantly acts in contradiction to its purpose doesn =80 t matter because the facts are just "abuse of history"=while real history is "the evidence of history as our minds reflect i=," then it's hard to avoid ridicule. But we should.&n=sp; There's no point ridiculing virtually the entire IR profession a=d the major journals, even though such extraordinary irrationality leads to major=human disasters.

On Davis, I frankly think that's a non-issue.&=bsp; If she decides she cannot do her job as the conditions of employment require (including following the law), then she can quit and I=ok for another job. As in any other such case.

Noam

From: Lawrence Krauss [mailto:██████████████████████████████████
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 1:51 AM
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Subject: an article you may both hate. or like.

h=pe all is well.

Lawrence

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