From: jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 4:33 AM
To: Nowak, Martin A.
Subject: Re:

reputation as power. doesnt need the sun= it does require signaling?

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:18 PM, No=ak, Martin A. <mailto: > wrote: <=lockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:lpx=ttccc solid;padding-left:lex">

super excited to work on those questions already discussed power with moshe today

conservation of energy may not be a problem here because most likely an open system constant influx of energy (from the sun)

running makes a runner (who eats enough) faster

power games could include accumulation of payoff asymmetry that would be a very new idea

MObjects are amazing

On Jul 25, 2016, at 7:02 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacat=on@gmail.com» wrote:

martin, you seemed want to to describe power as potential energy= ie the ability to do work. . however many of=the categories appear to violate the conservation of energy law . =AO ie the more you use your intellectual power. the greater i= becomes.- the use of political power ,ex a public hanging . increases the perception of =trength. etc. there seems to be a very importan= observer effect - ie signaling. ( biologlical entites need signals ? =AO ) the accumulation of power. sends a signal to others. =AO money might be considered a useful signal. =AO it can be sent as an exchange or accummulated for a status =ump in a narrow search space. the observer perception meanings are complex

topics for our conferences . I will fund . in=lu
ding hiring others to research. seminars. weekends =A0 etc
1 Power . what is it= what are some of its forms. , financial- ph=sical intellectual political. computational
- and others. =A0 . chomsky - language ehud military. gates. =A0 financial. . etc

Deception . biology vs mathematics. biologi=al entities FEED. therefore predator prey , loo= at the cost benefit of deception , including self deception. = also respect , how it is earned. wasted, =tolen , even borrowed inherited, and then dignity the study of self respect?

3 Money , what is it ? an agreement? =C2 a signal. similar to ATP. stored converted=and used. created, local global

4. music, melody horizontal combined =ith vertical . ie melody and harmony, the harmony=C2 is extremely involved. i dont understand if computation=can be made so that parallel processors not only work their own voic= but can be overlayed to form a more complex pattern

- S Probabiliy - is it a force like gravit=. we can describe ( measure ) gravity , we c=n describe probabilities. neither do we understand =what they are,

6 Derivation of the Power laws and distributions in biolog=cal systems. ( is intelli=ence reallyl just a self organized layered probability engine.=C2 )

7 and most interesting of all MOBJECTS =AO what are they, what role do they play in cognition are they=the wittgenstein like " images " , or are they are more. -they are embedded in context. =AO they have emotional dimensions. my guess is as the brain sits in 3d space any slicing. w=uld render moot. the mere study of the pattern of neuron firings. =AO how do mojects relate to "concepts. ". =AO I think they are transformations. a=set of mobjects can be desribed as a concept. . the set of concepts as phenomenon. etc

we know our sensory organs each act in a very narrow band. =AO as joi said how are they circled. bounded =constrained. focus and attention would be a weighting of=one dimension of the Moject or its projection

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