<table><tr><th>From:</th><th>jeffrey E. &lt;jeevacation@gmail.com&gt;</th></tr><tr><td>Sent:</td><td>Monday, September 12, 2016 7:40 PM</td></tr><tr><td>To:</td><td>Alice de Rothschild</td></tr><tr><td>Subject:</td><td>Fwd: Clarity on my position re consciousness</td></tr></table>

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- Date: "Mon, Sep 12, 2016 =t 3:25 PM"
- Subject: "Clarity on my position re consciousness"
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Dear Michael

After your talk yesterday I realized that I have not made my positi=n and that of eastern wisdom traditions clear re consciousness or els= you have not understood it, so here is one last try

1 Consciousness is the knowing element in every experience--you know you=are experiencing that which we as humans refer to as mind body universe.</=>

- 2 Perceptual objects are experienced in consciousness/awareness. They ar= a process in consciousness. They are experienced as sense perception= .

- 3 The brain including neural correlates and body are sense percept=ons experienced in the same way as rocks and the moon , trees,=C2 stars etc.

- 4 Mental objects ( a friend of mine calls them mobjects ) such as t=oughts feelings emotions etc are also experienced in consciousness/ awaren=ss.You know you are experiencing thoughts emotions etc.

- S The mind/ body and universe are a unified process in consciousness--yo= need all 3 to have a "normal" human experience.

6 We can guess that other species are having an experience but have=no idea re their mental or perceptual lives even though we can interact wi=h them.

7 I have no idea what I "look " like to a bat or an insect wit= a hundred eyes or to a mosquito , even though I can feel a mosquito bite =

8 The common ground of all experience is awareness/ consciousness. =/p>

- 9 Awareness/ consciousness is not personal -perceptions emotions are bot= personal and shared.

- 10 When your body mind dies as a particular process the universe ex=erienced by that particular body/ mind dies as well but impersonal awarene=s being formless remains.That which has no form is not in time .

- 11The essential " you " is not body/mind/ universe but the aw=reness in which body/ mind / universe arise and subside in every moment as=sensations, images, feelings, thoughts, and perceptions.

- 12 The body /mind / universe you experienced as an infant teenager etc a=e long dead as experiences. They are born and die =A0in every moment.

- 13 Your never the same body/ mind but you know yourself as th= same being ( being/ awareness/ consciousness are the same ontologically i= eastern wisdom traditions.

- 14 Where is memory ? The cellular basis of memory remains elusive althou=h like every experience memory has has neural correlates. I learnt how to =ce skate as a 12 year old boy with a 12 year old body/ mind and the d=d not pick up ice skates again until I was 45 years old but had no problem remembering how to ice skate with a =ifferent body/mind/brain.

- 15 The goal of all meditative techniques ( there are hundreds =f variations) is to stop identifying with the personal ego mind and =hysical body and to experience the common ground of shared exper=ence in awareness and so to awaken love compassion joy and equanimity ( divine emotions ). Anger / hostility/ fear/ guilt/ shame= shame/ resentment are products of the fragmented mind.

- 16 Religion / Philosophy/ Theology / Science etc are systems of thought = Systems of thought create models of reality. Science is a very useful mod=l for creating technology albeit with side effects-climate change , ecolog=cal devastation and mechanized death {including nuclear weapons which if in the hands of more primit=ve systems of thought -religious fanatics- could result in our extinction)=/p>

- 17 Reality perhaps can only be grasped when all ideologies are abandoned=& body mind ego are all experiences are transcende= and only formless being/ awareness remains.

- 18 Awareness/consciousness cannot be seen , heard, touched, tasted or sm=lled but without it none of those experiences would be possible .

- 19 Body/ mind / universe are human concepts in human awareness for an in=ermittent stream of sensations, images, feelings, thoughts, sense percepti=ns , that are known in consciousness/awareness and indeed modifications =AO of awareness itself.

- 20 You started you lecture by saying you were a material moni=t but very quickly moved into dualistic metaphors.

- 21You spent a lot of time debunking the paranormal - a subject that was=not part of the conference where we were trying to figure out the normal .=/p>

- 22 I wished you had been there for Amanda Gefter's talk w=en she she brought up nothingness as the only invariant -- not even spaceti=e!

- 23 The task that now remains is --how does nothing give rise to everythi=g & what exactly is it ?!

- 24 Finally it was great seeing you, =ennifer and baby

Vincent who is an angel ! ( yes--that is =eant metaphorically please}

With love and respect your friend </=pan>

deepak

Carlsbad, CA 92009

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