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Saturday, August 20, 2016 11:28 PM
jeffrey E.
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Dear Jeffrey,

There is some fun stuff g=ing on, mixed in with a substantial amount of BS too!

=div> and I had a fun debate on a panel -- or a violent disagreement,=depending on your perspective.  wanted to define ob=ervers and agents as high-level, complex systems, and I wanted t= say an observer is just a system that gets information about it= environement, and an agent is a system that acts on its environment.

They didn't have to get out the steel cage, but it was entertaini=g.

There has been a lot of interest about trying =o make formal the idea of systems that discover and take advanta=e of patterns in their environment, quite similar to discussions=that you and I have had. There are different perspectives ab=ut this, but people broadly agree that this is an important aven=e to follow.

There remains a surprising amount of=disagreement on foundations of quantum mechanics and the quantum=measurement problem.

There has been a lot of frui=less debate on what is an 'event,' and what it means for an event to '=appen.'

There should be a good session on qua=tum gravity, which I will sadly miss because I have to leave tomorrow morning. Then there will be a session on consciousness, =hich I will happily miss.

Hope all goes well ther=,

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 10:21 AM,=jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com> > wrote:

any interesting insights up in bamf

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