August 16, 2021 prep
AUSA
Det.
Attorneys &

• shown photobook containing 20 photographs. Asked to see if recognize anyone in the book. Instructed that just because someone is in the book, does not mean knows them or that they have anything to do with this case. Instructed just to look and see if| recognizes anyone.

0 1 - DNR (do not recognize)
° 2-DNR
。 3-DNR
о 4- DNR
° 5- (bad picture of her)
○ 6-DNR
。 7 Jeffrey Epstein
。 8-DNR
。 9-DNR
о 10-DNR
0 11 - DNR
о 12- DNR
0 13 - DNR
о 14- DNR
15 - DNR
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16 - Ghislaine Maxwell (bad picture of her; recalls her having longer hair)
17 - DNR
о 18 - DNR
о 19 - DNR
о 20 - DNR

	- shown additional photographs and asked if he recognized them:

	- о 1 Little St. James

	- о 2- Big House at Zorro Ranch

	- o 3-9E71st Street

	- о 4- Building in Paris where JE's apartment was

	。 5-DNR (looks somewhat like GM's townhouse, but can't be sure)

- did not know how old was when he met her. He believes she looked like she was in her 20s, but he had no idea of her actual age.

- did not know how old | was when he met her. He believes she looked like she was in her 20s, but he had no idea of her actual age.

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- confirmed that he does not have any flight records for JE's planes from before 1999. All were turned over to JE's attorney in or about 2006.

[At this point, AUSAs | & joined] Prepared for trial testimony. previously undisclosed, clarifying, or different recollections below.

		。 JE had the G2B from approximately 1994 through approximately 2012 or 2013. G2B was silver with burgundy strip at first, then painted black. Inside had burgundy carpet.

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JE

- had the Boeing form approximately 2000 through approximately

2017

- о JE bought the G4 in approximately 2012 or 2013

。 JE bought firs helicopter in approximately 1999 or 2000. Between approximately 1999 and the mid-2000s, GM flew JE's helicopter at least 30 times. would be in the helicopter with GM. To | knowledge, JE owned all the helicopters, GM never owned any of the helicopters. also flew JE's helicopters.

	- does not recall being told any rules for him or other pilots regarding how to interact with passengers on JE's planes. does remember having to sign confidentiality forms, which| understood meant he could not write a book about his employment.

。 GM seemed to like | and was nice to remembers GM as a nice person. reported to GM, and GM was second in charge under JE above JE's other employees. In JE's office, JE had his own separate office; GM had a desk in the office but not her own separate office room.

。 During initial meeting with SDNY, may have had trouble remembering which
he met first or , but in thinking about the context in
which he saw those two passengers since then, has remembered that he only
saw on the G2 (not the Boeing) and he only saw on the
Boeing (not the G2). That recollection helped | confirm in his own mind that
he met first and second.

。 Over time knew GM, her hair length varied from about shoulder length to shorter cuts.

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。 JE primarily took the Concord to go to Paris in the 1990s.

		- visited JE's home in Columbus, OH

	- recalls that JE purchased the 71st Street NY residence in approximately the mid-1990s (recalls it was 7 stories); the Palm Beach residence in approximately the early 1990s; the NM ranch in approximately 1996 or the late 1990s (recalls it had approximately 11,000 acres); Little St. James in approximately the 2000s; and the Apartment in Paris in approximately the 2000s.

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- recalls meeting| in approximately the late 1990s/early

2000s

0 recalls meeting| in approximately the late 1990s

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MITI

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